Lecture: What is a Guru?
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London, August 22, 1973
Prabhupāda:
oṁ ajñāna-timirāndhasya
jñānāñjana-śalākayā
cakṣur unmīlitaṁ yena
tasmai śrī-gurave namaḥ
[I offer my respectful obeisances unto my spiritual master, who with
the torchlight of knowledge has opened my eyes, which were blinded by
the darkness of ignorance.]
śrī-caitanya-mano-'bhīṣṭaṁ
sthāpitaṁ yena bhū-tale
svayaṁ rupaḥ kadā mahyaṁ
dadāti sva-padāntikam
[When will Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī Prabhupāda, who has established within
this material world the mission to fulfill the desire of Lord Caitanya,
give me shelter under his lotus feet?]
śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda
śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda
[I offer my obeisances to Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, Prabhu Nityānanda, Śrī
Advaita, Gadādhara, Śrīvāsa and all others in the line of devotion.]
hare kṛṣṇa hare kṛṣṇa kṛṣṇa kṛṣṇa hare hare
hare rāma hare rāma rāma rāma hare hare
[My dear Lord, and the spiritual energy of the Lord, kindly engage me
in Your service. I am now embarrassed with this material service. Please
engage me in Your service.]
Thank you very much. So, tonight's subject matter for speaking is "What is Guru?"
Haṁsadūta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So, guru, there are many descriptions. Subject matter is
the same, but different way, guru has been described by different
ācāryas. Their aim is the same, but language or presentation may be
little different. So generally guru means,
ajñāna-timirāndhasya
jñānāñjana-śalākaya
cakṣur unmīlitaṁ yena
tasmai śrī-gurave namaḥ
Just like in darkness, ajñāna-timirāndhasya. Ajñāna means ignorance,
without knowledge. That is called ajñāna. So ajñāna is compared...,
ignorance, stupidity, is compared with darkness. Just like if you are,
if this room, immediately, all lights are off, then it becomes dark. We
cannot see where I am sitting, where others are sitting. It becomes a
confusion. Similarly, in this material world, we are all in the
darkness. This material world is called darkness. It is called tamaḥ.
Tamaḥ means darkness. Or timir. Timir means darkness. And actually, it
is darkness. Because, because this material world is dark, there is need
of sunlight, there is need of moonlight, there is need of electricity.
(aside:) This child disturbing. But there is another world. We get
description from the Vedic literature, na yatra bhāsayate sūryo na
śaśaṅko na pāvakaḥ. There is another world, spiritual world, where there
is no darkness, and therefore, there is no need of sunlight, there is
no need of moonlight, there is no need of electricity.
So guru's
business is to bring out the disciples from darkness to light. That is
guru's business. That is guru. First business is that because he is
suf... Everyone is suffering on account of ignorance. Just like you
contaminate some disease out of ignorance. You do not know hygienic
principle; you do not know that "This thing will contaminate me. This
association will contaminate me. This kind of food will contaminate me."
Because we do not know, therefore we contact infections, sometimes
suffer from disease. It is very simple to understand. Everyone's...
Suppose one commits something criminal due to ignorance, due to
ignorance. But in the court, when a man is criminal, in the court, if he
says, the criminal, if he says that "I did not know the law," he'll not
be excused. Ignorance is no excuse. Similarly, even a child, he does
not know, he catches on fire—the fire will burn. No excuse. The fire
will not consider that "Here is a child. He does not know. Excuse." No.
No excuse. So as there are stringent laws of nature or laws of the
state, that because you do not know something, you have committed some
wrong, you'll be excused—no, that is no, there is no possibility. You
have committed something wrong out of ignorance, you must suffer. This
is the law nature's law. You cannot... I have (given) many examples.
Suppose you can not eat more. Out of ignorance, if you eat more, then
you have to fast two days, three days, suffering, or you'll have some
disease. You cannot violate any laws of the nature or any laws of the
state anywhere. Wherever there is law, if you break it, then you'll
suffer. This is ignorance.
Therefore guru's business is... Every
human being is suffering in this material world. Nobody can say that "I
am not suffering." It is not possible. There must be suffering. There
are three kinds of sufferings. (But) That out of ignorance also, a
rascal is suffering, he's saying that "I am very happy." That is also
another ignorance. There are three kinds of sufferings in this material
world: ādhyātmic, ādhibautic, ādhidaivic. Suffering on account of my own
body and mind—this suffering is not imposed by anyone else. I do it.
The same thing, that I cannot digest but I eat more, so there must be
dysentery. You must suffer. This is due to my body and mind. That is
another one kind of suffering. Another suffering is imposed by other
living entities. Just like your enemy or an animal—or there are ants,
mosquitos, flies, they are all causing suffering. You are killing them,
and they are trying to give you suffering. This is called struggle. This
is called ādhibautic, suffering given by other living entities.
Suffering caused by myself, this is called ādhyātmic. And suffering
caused by other living... And there are other sufferings, caused by the
nature, superior power, ādhidaivic. All of a sudden, there is no rain,
no rainfall, and now for want of rainfall, there is no food grain.
Excessive heat, excessive chilly cold; earthquake, famine... So many, by
natures, imposed by the natures. Flood. So there are three kinds of
sufferings in the material world, and everyone is suffering either by
one, two or three or..., but nobody can say that "I am completely free
from suffering." That is not possible. And why this suffering? Due to
ignorance. I do not know. I am committing sinful life, I am committing
mistakes; therefore I am suffering. Therefore guru's business is first
to rescue his disciple from ignorance, ignorance. Ajñāna-timirāndhasya.
Everyone is suffering out of ignorance; therefore guru's business is
to... Just like we go to a school. We go to a school, we send our
children to a school. Why? To save him from suffering; to get education.
"If my son does not get education, he'll suffer in the future." The
same process: to get him out of ignorance, to get him relieved from the
suffering. Therefore, guru's business is ajñāna-timirāndhasya
jñānāñjana-śalākaya. So sufferings is due to ignorance. Ignorance is
compared with darkness. So in the darkness how you can save one? By some
light. So guru's business is to take the torchlight of knowledge and
present before the ignorant or the disciple in darkness and that gives
him, relieves him from the sufferings of darkness or ignorance. This is
guru's business.
Then another verse says,
tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet
samit-pāṇiḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham
[MU 1.2.12]
It is Vedic injunction. Somebody was asking whether guru is absolutely
necessary. Yes, absolutely necessary. That is the Vedic injunction. The
Vedas say, tad-vijñānārtham. Tad-vijñāna means spiritual knowledge.
Spiritual knowledge; for acquiring spiritual knowledge.
Tad-vijñānārtham. Sa—one; gurum eva—eva means must; gurum—to a guru.
Must go to guru. Not "a" guru; "the" guru. Guru is one. Because as it is
explained by our Revatīnandana Mahārāja, guru is coming from the
disciplic succession. What five thousand years ago Vyāsadeva instructed
or Kṛṣṇa instructed, the same thing we are also instructing. Therefore
there is no difference between instruction. Therefore guru is one.
Although hundreds and thousands of ācāryas have come and gone, but the
message is one. Therefore guru cannot be two. Real guru will not talk
differently. Some guru says that "In my opinion, you should like this,"
and some guru will say, "In my opinion you'll do this"—they are not
guru; they are all rascals. Guru has no "own" opinion. Guru has got only
one opinion, the same opinion which was expressed by Kṛṣṇa, Vyāsadeva
or Nārada or Arjuna or Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu or the Gosvāmīs. You'll
find the same thing. Five thousand years ago, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa spoke
Bhagavad-gītā and Vyāsadeva wrote it, recorded it. Vyāsadeva does not
say that "It is my opinion." Vyāsadeva writes, śrī bhagavān uvāca:
"Whatever writing, it is spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead."
He's not giving his own opinion. Śrī bhagavān uvāca. Therefore he is
guru. He is not misinterpreting the words of Kṛṣṇa. He's giving as it
is. Just like a bearer, peon. Somebody has written you letter, the peon
has got the letter. It does not mean he has to correct it or edit it or
addition or... No. He'll present it. That is his duty. Then he is guru.
He's honest. Similarly, guru cannot be two. Mind that. The person may be
different, but the message is the same. Therefore guru is one.
The
Vedic instruction is, tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet [MU
1.2.12]. Gurum eva, "one must." Eva means "must." Abhigacchet, this verb
is used when there is the sense of "must." It never says "Go to a
guru," but he says "Must approach the guru." Guru is one. Guru cannot be
two. Gurum evābhigacchet. And we see also, practically, in the
disciplic succession of guru, the same thing is spoken by the guru. Same
thing. Repetition of the same subject matter, no other. Kṛṣṇa said that
man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru: [Bg. 18.65] "Just
think of Me," man-manā. "Just become devotee of Me," man-manā bhava
mad-bhakto. "Just worship Me and just offer your obeisances unto Me."
Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja [Bg. 18.66]. "Just
surrender unto Me." You'll find this instruction in the Bhagavad-gītā.
The same thing was spoken by all the ācāryas. Rāmanujācārya also says
the same, Madhvācārya says the same thing, Caitanya Mahāprabhu says same
thing, the Gosvāmīs say the same thing, and we are also speaking the
same thing. There is no difference. We do not interpret the words of
Kṛṣṇa, that "In my opinion, Kurukṣetra means this body." This is
rascaldom. The whole situation has been spoiled by these so-called
rascal gurus who gives his own opinion. This is our plain declaration:
Let any rascal guru come. We can convince him that he is not guru,
because he is speaking differently. We can challenge any rascal. Just
like somebody came here, he said that he's God, every one of us God.
(aside:) Stop this. So I asked that "Just find out in the dictionary
what is meaning of God. Let us see whether he is God." The dictionary,
as soon as dictionary was consulted, the meaning of God is "the supreme
being," meaning of God. So I asked him, "Are you supreme? If you cannot
understand, then find out the meaning of supreme." Then when he
consulted dictionary, the supreme, it is said "the greatest authority."
So I asked him, "Are you the greatest authority?" The rascal could not
answer. He does not know even the dictionary meaning, and he's claiming
that he's God. This rascaldom is going on, whole world. Big, big rascal
swamis, they say, "Why you are finding out God anywhere? You do not see
so many rascal gods are loitering in the street?" This is going on. If
you simply consult dictionary, you can understand what is the meaning of
God. God is so cheap thing, huh? Supreme being. Are you supreme being?
Supreme means the highest authority. Highest authority means nobody is
equal to him, nobody is greater than him. That is supreme. So these
rascals who are claiming to become God, is it a fact that nobody is
equal to him, nobody is greater than him? There are so many.
So this
kind of guru, this kind of rascal, will not help you. Guru must come
from the paramparā system by disciplic succession. Five thousand years
or five millions of years, what was spoken by the supreme God or guru,
the present guru also will say the same thing. That is guru. That is
bona fide guru. Otherwise, he's not guru. Simple definition. Guru cannot
change any word of the predecessor. There is one instance in Caitanya
Mahāprabhu's life. One gentleman, (he) is Vallabha Ācārya. He was very
much devotee of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He wrote one comment on
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Subodhinī-ṭīkā, it is called. That is recognized,
nice ṭīkā, comment. But he approached Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He was very
great devotee of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. So he simply said that "Caitanya
Mahāprabhu, Lord Caitanya, if You hear my comment on the
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, You'll find it is far better than Śrīdhara Svāmī's."
Śrīdhara Svāmī is the very old commentator. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu
immediately rejected: "Oh, you are claiming that you have written
something better than Śrīdhara Svāmī?" He chastised him. Svāmī means
another... He sarcastically remarked, the word svāmī, Śrīdhara Swami,
svāmī, another svāmī means "husband." So He said, svāmī jīva nahi mane
besa bali guni(?): "I think one who does not recognize svāmī, he's a
prostitute." He immediately said. "You do not recognize Śrīdhara Svāmī,
then you are a prostitute. How can I hear from a prostitute?" He
refused. Only word, that "I have written better than Svāmī." So this is
the process of guru. You cannot disobey the previous ācārya or guru. No.
You have to repeat the same thing. Not research. Sometimes rascals
come, that "You are speaking the same thing. Why don't you speak
something new by research work?" We say that we have no intelligence, we
cannot make any research. We are... Guru more mūrkha dekhi koriyā
vicāra [Cc. Ādi 7.71]. Caitanya Mahāprabhu said that "My Guru Mahārāja
saw Me a great fool number one." So one who remains a great fool number
one before his guru, he is guru. And one who says that "I'm advanced so
much that I can speak better than my guru," then he's rascal. This is
the process.
evaṁ paramparā-prāptam
imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ
sa kāleneha (mahatā)
yogo naṣṭaḥ parantapa
[Bg. 4.2]
Kṛṣṇa said in the Fourth Chapter.
So guru is one. Guru cannot be two. As soon as you find two opinions of
guru, either both of them are rascals, or one is still at least rascal.
There cannot be two. This is guru. Another place it is said,
tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta
jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam
śābde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ
brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam
[SB 11.3.21]
Who needs a guru? A third-class, fourth-class man, ordinary man,
doesn't require a guru. Guru, to keep a guru or to have a guru is not a
fashion. One who is very serious to understand spiritual life, he
requires a guru. Otherwise, there is no need of guru. Just like you keep
a dog as a fashion, don't keep a guru. Guru means..., is a question of
necessity. One must be very serious to understand what is spiritual
life, what is God, what is my relation with God, how to act. When we are
very much serious about this subject matter, then we require a guru.
Don't go to a guru as a matter of fashion. That is useless. That is
useless. Therefore śāstra says, tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta. Because we have
to go to guru and surrender there. Without surrendering, you cannot
learn anything. If you want to challenge guru, it is not possible. Then
you'll learn nothing. Tasmad guruṁ prapadyeta. Praṇipātena. So, just
like Arjuna accepted Kṛṣṇa as guru, he said, śiṣyas te 'haṁ śādhi māṁ
tvāṁ prapannam: [Bg. 2.7] "I am now surrendered to you." That is the
process. Tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā [Bg. 4.34]. To...
Guru means Kṛṣṇa's representative, former ācāryas' representative.
Kṛṣṇa's... All ācāryas are representative of Kṛṣṇa; therefore guru
should be offered the same respect as you offer to God. Tasmād guruṁ
prapadyeta [SB 11.3.21]. Therefore Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura says,
yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo **. Because guru is bona fide
representative of Kṛṣṇa, or God, so if you surrender to guru, bona fide
guru, that means you surrender to God. God is accepting your surrender
through the guru. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo. If you surrender to
guru, that means Kṛṣṇa is pleased. Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā,
sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja: [Bg. 18.66] surrender.
That somebody argues, "Where is Kṛṣṇa? I shall surrender." No. You
surrender to His representative, then you surrender to Kṛṣṇa. This is
the process.
So guru is the representative of God. Therefore the
śāstra says, the authority says, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair.
Guru is as good as God. Here, in this Vyāsa-pūjā day, we are teaching or
they are doing, offering respect to guru. That means they are learning
how to offer respect to God. It is not personal affair; it is required.
Because they are trying to be God conscious, they must learn how to
offer respect to God or God's representative. That is required.
Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair. In all the śāstra, Vedic literature,
guru is described as good as God. But guru will never say that "I am
God." The disciple's duty is to offer respect to guru as he offers
respect to God. But guru will never say that "I am... Because my
disciples are offering me respect as God, therefore I have become God."
As soon as he thinks so, he becomes dog. He is no more God. Therefore
Viśvanātha Cakravartī says... Why guru is offered respect like God?
Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Guru is offered the same respect as
we offer respect to God. Just like in the morning. The other side,
ārātrika was going on, offering to Kṛṣṇa, and this side was ārātrika was
going on to offer respect to the spiritual master. The same respect.
But guru will never say, and he's not that. Guru will never say, "Now I
have become God." No. God does not become. God is always God. So God is
God and guru is guru. But, as a matter of etiquette, God is the sevya
God, worshipable God, and guru is the worshiper God. Just try to
understand. Worshipable God and worshiper God. This is. Sevya
bhagavān-sevaka bhagavān. Just like guru is addressed: "Prabhupāda."
Prabhu means "the Lord" and pāda means "the position." "One who has
taken the position of the Lord." The same thing: sākṣād-dharitvena,
prabhupāda. These are the terms, one who is serious to study this
science of God, they'll learn all these things. So one who is very
serious to understand the science of God, for him a guru is required.
Don't try to keep a guru as a matter of fashion, that it has become a
fashion to accept somebody, some rascal as guru, and say that "I have
got my guru." What kind of guru you have got? You are talking nonsense.
Ācāryavān puruṣa veda. One who has accepted guru, he'll talk sense,
where there is meaning. He'll never talk any nonsense. That is the sign
that he has got guru. He has got the sacred thread. Yes, he's accepted
by bona fide guru. That is the sign, sacred thread. So you are offering
good respect to your spiritual master. That is very nice. You are very
thankful. But at the same time we should remember that how to carry out
the orders of the guru so that people may not think that you are talking
nonsense. You must be very careful.
So in the Bhagavad-gītā also...
I am reciting, citing various verses from various śāstras-Kaṭhopaniṣad,
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Now here is another verse. Kṛṣṇa says, tad viddhi
praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā, in the Bhagavad-gītā.
tad viddhi praṇipātena
paripraśnena sevayā
upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ
jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ
[Bg. 4.34]
So you have to learn from guru by three processes. What is that? First
process is you must surrender. Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta [SB 11.3.21].
Surrender. You have to find out such an exalted person where you can
willingly surrender, "Yes." Therefore it is enjoined in the śāstras,
before making a guru, try to study him, whether you can surrender there.
Don't accept any guru all of a sudden as fanatic. No, don't do that.
That is the injunction. And guru also must study the disciple who wants
to become a disciple; must study him, whether he's fit for becoming a
disciple. This is the way of making relationship between guru and
disciple. Everything is there provided we take them seriously. Then we
can train up how to become bona fide disciple, how to find out bona fide
guru, how to establish our relationship with guru and act accordingly
and make our life successful. Because guru's business is
ajñāna-timirāndhasya jñānāñjana-śalākayā. Guru's business is to
enlighten the disciple, because he's in darkness. In another place in
the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that parābhavas tāvad abodha-jāto yāvan
na jijñāsata ātma-tattvam. Parābhavaḥ, parābhavaḥ means defeat. Defeat.
So whose defeat? Parābhavas tāvad abodha-jāto: one who is born rascal
and fool. Everyone is born rascal and fool. Nobody, otherwise, if you
are learned, if you are..., if you know things, then why do you go to a
school and college and pass university? It is a fact. Animals. If we do
not cultivate knowledge, then we are as good as animals. Now another
animal is saying that there is no need of books, and he has become guru.
But how you can get knowledge without authoritative studies of books
and science and philosophy? But they are trying to avoid this. So
imagine what kind of guru and what kind of disciple.
So śāstra says,
parābhavas tāvad abodha-jāto. Abodha-jāto. Everyone is born rascal,
fool. He has to be enlightened, he has to be given knowledge, and he has
to receive knowledge to make his life perfect. Therefore parābhavaḥ
means one who does not make his life perfect, he's being defeated. What
is the defeat? Struggle for existence. We are trying to get better life.
Here also, in this life also, we are struggling hard for getting better
position. So real better position we do not know. That is described in
the Bhagavad-gītā: saḥ amṛtatvāya kalpate. Here in this material world
there is no better position because there is death. You may possess a
very good better position, but you'll have to give it up. Either the
better position will give up you, or ultimately you have to give up that
better position. You cannot stay. Suppose you have earned millions of
dollars, millions of pounds: "Now we have got good bank balance." You
think, "Now I am in the better position." A little dysentery, or
cholera, dysentery—finished, better position. Or the bank fails—that
better position gone. So there is no better position in this material
world. It is a false. Therefore those who are trying to get better
position in this material world, they are simply becoming defeated,
because there is no better position. He's a rascal. He's thinking this
is better position. What is better position? Then Bhagavad-gītā says the
better position is amṛtatva. Saḥ amṛtatvāya kalpate: "Don't die. Keep
your position firm." That is better position. So is there any science to
give knowledge how one becomes immortal? Yes, there is. You can become
immortal. Not in this material science; not in the so-called
universities. But there is knowledge in the Vedic scripture by which you
can become immortal. That is better position. No more death, no more
birth, no more old age, no more disease. So guru's task is very great
responsibility. He has to guide the disciple how to make him quite
eligible candidate to get the perfect position, immortality, back to
home, back to Godhead.
Thank you very much. (end)
Lecture
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London, August 23, 1973
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